tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post7756079069696300683..comments2024-03-04T03:28:33.591-05:00Comments on Tips from Chip: The 2013 Edition of the 1,001 Movies You Must See Before You Die Is Now AvailableChip Laryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-25081246401045673702013-09-14T20:10:30.135-04:002013-09-14T20:10:30.135-04:00Thank you.
The only animated film they ever added...Thank you.<br /><br />The only animated film they ever added to the list in any prior edition was WALL-E and they removed it the very next year. You can tell they don't think much of the genre over the classics that they originally chose. At least Toy Story 2 and 3 finally sort-of made it as part of the Trilogy entry.<br /><br />That's a great case for the importance of The Little Mermaid. Thanks for sharing that.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-59284039504766246282013-09-14T19:47:43.605-04:002013-09-14T19:47:43.605-04:00Amazing list! You are organized and awesome. I jus...Amazing list! You are organized and awesome. I just wish they would have replaced more animated features.<br /><br />I would have replaced The Jungle Book and Dumbo with Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid. Beauty and the Beast was the first animation to use computer animation (the ballroom scene). We studied The Little Mermaid a lot in one of my classes. In the '80s, the animation department at Disney was about be shut down. Their last effort was The Little Mermaid, to prove they deserved to stay. It's not the best animated feature ever, but it started the Disney Renaissance and revived the animation department. There would be no Beauty and the Beast or Toy Story or any Disney/Pixar film for that matter. In other words, I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for The Little Mermaid. So I hold it in high regard. Since it's not in this edition, I doubt it will be but I recommend everyone watch it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172446849111712883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-76366685529277498052013-09-13T08:44:37.446-04:002013-09-13T08:44:37.446-04:00I'd rate the top three Lloyd films as Safety L...I'd rate the top three Lloyd films as Safety Last, The Freshman (love the bit where he's trying to keep the suit on at the dance), and Speedy. I honestly had never even heard of The Kid Brother before starting to actively work on the list. I liked the film, as I would expect I would any of Lloyd's, but when you think of the most iconic images in cinema history, Lloyd hanging off the clock in Safety Last is one of them. Even if it were not my favorite, its place in films would seem to merit a spot.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-41321393383739096732013-09-13T02:59:35.854-04:002013-09-13T02:59:35.854-04:00I recently watched The Kid Brother, The Freshman, ...I recently watched The Kid Brother, The Freshman, and Safety Last! Regardless of which Harold Lloyd picture is listed in the book, seeing one led me to watch the others. If I had to pick a favorite, I would probably choose The Freshman. But honestly, my book would include all three. Chris, a librarianhttp://www.1001afilmodyssey.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-23800392724979993552013-09-12T19:46:30.907-04:002013-09-12T19:46:30.907-04:00I didn't take it as a criticism, but that you ...I didn't take it as a criticism, but that you were at a loss as to why I might be tracking what gets removed. I do appreciate the follow-up, though. And I didn't intend my post to sound defensive. It was merely intending it to be informative.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-55999368701606348022013-09-12T15:33:44.352-04:002013-09-12T15:33:44.352-04:00Yes. And I didn't mean that to sound like a cr...Yes. And I didn't mean that to sound like a criticism. I appreciate you going through the list.1001: A Film Odyssey is produced, directed and written by Chris, a librarian.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04803620768028761898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-47983605076125447102013-09-12T13:04:22.540-04:002013-09-12T13:04:22.540-04:00Most people working on the list, including myself,...Most people working on the list, including myself, focus on the entire thing, but I have had some people ask how they can get just the current list from my tracking sheet on my Lists from Chip site. I have a column that tracks all additions, removals, re-additions, re-removals, etc. for every entry.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-36593393043602173212013-09-12T13:01:58.147-04:002013-09-12T13:01:58.147-04:00I saw Local Hero years ago and liked it quite a bi...I saw Local Hero years ago and liked it quite a bit. I was surprised to find that Netflix does not offer it (more on that in my next post.)<br /><br />Thanks for the info on those films on Hulu Plus. There will be a couple of others also available on Hulu from the entire list. I am working on compiling the definitive updates for my coming post.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-15730140145388918782013-09-12T12:58:25.690-04:002013-09-12T12:58:25.690-04:00As has been previously stated, once a film has bee...As has been previously stated, once a film has been in any edition once, it is on my to watch list. So whether a movie is a readdition or not isn't that important to me. <br /><br />But with the new list, it's also good to know I can rewatch Mary Poppins, The Towering Inferno and Oklahoma! with the 1001 Movie seal of approval!<br /><br />And I won't even complain about the omission of Sling Blade, Day of Wrath, The Time Machine and The Killing.1001: A Film Odyssey is produced, directed and written by Chris, a librarian.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04803620768028761898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-25836019490621761262013-09-12T12:15:25.206-04:002013-09-12T12:15:25.206-04:00The following films are on Hulu Plus:
The Extermi...The following films are on Hulu Plus:<br /><br />The Exterminating Angel<br />F for Fake<br />Field of Dreams<br />Summer with Monika<br /><br />In my heart, Local Hero probably hold the number one spot and I'm awfully glad it is on or back on the list.<br /><br /><br />marie_dresslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334550550983418668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-13805063395483934232013-09-11T23:54:56.277-04:002013-09-11T23:54:56.277-04:00@Steve - Okay, I was definitely misunderstanding y...@Steve - Okay, I was definitely misunderstanding you. Thanks for the clarification. <br /><br />Look for an email soon with some good news in it...Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-75946746346228477852013-09-11T23:46:01.834-04:002013-09-11T23:46:01.834-04:00Oh, I'd never call it The Fiends. When I say &...Oh, I'd never call it The Fiends. When I say "good enough for me," I mean that it's enough confirmation that the listing in the index is for the same film, especially since the page number is the same. I think it's ridiculous that they'd list an alternate title for a film that neither I nor anyone I know has called anything other than Les Diaboliques.<br /><br />As far as the reliability of Wikipedia...it's actually no worse than almost any other source. Yes, anyone can edit it, but people are also notoriously anal retentive about fixing bad information. While the "anyone can edit" policy is sometimes an issue, it's also remarkably self-policing. Bad reputation and all, it's generally solid for basic information.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-31588674928472142652013-09-11T22:10:59.184-04:002013-09-11T22:10:59.184-04:00@Adolytsi - that's the system that has been in...@Adolytsi - that's the system that has been in place, but there was no agreement on what it should be going forward other than "let's wait and see." Since Squish is the one with the club, with a lack of any consensus he will be the one who will unilaterally determine how he will number the new entries. He mentioned a desire to "start fresh" with the 10th edition and his idea for handling the removed entries was to have them at the end of each year. Had we gone with my plan The Cabin in the Woods would indeed appear in the list right above the new 2012 entries at the end of the entire list and all added films would be very easily identified.<br /><br />@Steve - You can call it The Fiends if you want, but you'll get a hell of a lot of blank stares. The sheer amount of confusion caused by that title just in these posts and comments is a small example. The name in English is Diabolique, so says IMDB and the Criterion DVD I own. Wikipedia is notorious for containing bad information since anybody can add anything. IMDB is controlled by Admins who work there who review submissions from users before applying any changes. For all we know, "The Fiends" was added to wikipedia as another title in response to the name appearing in this latest 1,001 Movies book, thus creating a circular reference.<br /><br />@Both - I'm leaving all the movies numberless until I see what Squish comes up with for numbers. At that point I will apply them to my tracking sheet and the Books page on the wiki.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-54432510140642604062013-09-11T21:55:38.812-04:002013-09-11T21:55:38.812-04:00I haven't figured how I'm going to do it y...I haven't figured how I'm going to do it yet, and at the moment, Squish has other problems on his site.<br /><br />According to the Wikipedia entry, Les Diaboliques is also known as The Devils or The Fiends. That's good enough for me.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-48306433503268665052013-09-11T21:48:07.482-04:002013-09-11T21:48:07.482-04:00Ah; that's not how I have it. I have it as any...Ah; that's not how I have it. I have it as any new titles, regardless of when they are added, are added at the end of their year in the order they first appear in the book. The only "2011" film added to the list is Cabin in the Woods, which by that system will be listed at the end of 2011, after The Artist, and directly following it will be the new 2012 films. I'm assuming not everyone will be doing the same, if what you said about Squish is correct, but that's how I'm doing it.Adolytsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12266038228108057617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-69925820545212854892013-09-11T21:35:51.119-04:002013-09-11T21:35:51.119-04:00The Cabin in the Woods will just be the latest in ...The Cabin in the Woods will just be the latest in a long line of stupid errors that a few seconds of proofreading would have discovered. After going through all the editions I got a very strong feeling of "we're film critics; details are beneath us" whether it was bad titles, really bad indexes/tables of contents, wrong years, or even reviews with wrong plot points in them. I'd estimate I've fixed 10-15% of the years for the entries prior to this latest edition. One of the things I'll be looking at when I get the book tomorrow is whether they fixed a lot of these or not.<br /><br />And if I understood Squish correctly, Cabin in the Woods will not end up right next to the 2012 entries. He mentioned having each year align with the latest book then having the removed entries for each year appear at the end of that year.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-67220650691145859942013-09-11T20:49:18.776-04:002013-09-11T20:49:18.776-04:00I just finished updating my own list, and yeah, I ...I just finished updating my own list, and yeah, I didn't add any of the new titles besides Ace in the Hole, and even then I put it next to The Big Carnival like the book used to have. All I did was add all the new entires as they're listed in the book; besides the Peter Ibbertson/Ibbetson discrepancy you pointed out, I haven't done any research as to whether the titles in the book are correct, but most of them are well-known English movies so I'm willing to trust the editors for the time being, though my hands are up in the air on the foreign films.<br /><br />I believe I was for keeping things like they were in the book, but yeah, for extreme cases like that, we can do some proofreading/double-checking of our own. I assume you've got the new edition coming tomorrow or Friday, so you can do all the double-checking then; I just wanted to get the new titles out as soon as possible.<br /><br />And like I said, I don't know too much about the re-adds, but I seem to recall Gangs of New York having been removed and never made it back, until now, but I might be wrong. That one was just the one that jumped off the page at me.<br /><br />And yes, Cabin in the Woods is listed as a 2011 film, but its placement is at the end of the 2011 films, and right in front of the 2012 films, so no matter whether you have it as a 2011 or 2012 film, it'll still be in the same slot in the list, so to each their own how they want to list it.Adolytsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12266038228108057617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-60127119748200346622013-09-11T19:57:50.977-04:002013-09-11T19:57:50.977-04:00Right now it looks like only 8 films from the most...Right now it looks like only 8 films from the most recent year made it. (Cabin in the Woods was a 2012 film, not 2011. If the book has 2011 that's wrong.)<br /><br />There are only two re-adds in the latest edition, according to the Table of Contents - Boogie Nights and Russian Ark.<br /><br />@Adolytsi - I can't remember if you were one of the folks who wanted to keep things matching the books, even when the books were wrong. If not, I'd doublecheck every "new" title the latest edition has before updating anything. The whole "The Fiends" title for Les Diaboliques is a case in point. IMDB lists 26 alternate titles for this film. NOT ONE is "The Fiends". About the closest any of them get is a time when it got named "The Devils" for a U.S. TV broadcast, according to IMDB. The real English title for it is just Diabolique.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-13811583811870832902013-09-11T19:42:27.072-04:002013-09-11T19:42:27.072-04:00Hey, I spelled it without the "r."
That...Hey, I spelled it without the "r."<br /><br />That one confused me--I couldn't find it on IMDB and was a bit worried that it might be <i>really</i> obscure. So I did a check on Google and found the right spelling.<br /><br />I'm planning on knocking out the online ones in the next 7-10 days just to get them done.<br /><br />As for the re-adds, some of those may have been re-added in the previous volume. Not sure.<br /><br />I'm surprised at the small number from 2012. I expected at least another half dozen--<i>Beasts of the Southern Wild, The Master, Flight, Silver Linings Playbook</i>...SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-91830570120377378042013-09-11T19:36:19.577-04:002013-09-11T19:36:19.577-04:00Yeah, in the book it's listed as Ibbertson, wi...Yeah, in the book it's listed as Ibbertson, with an R. Also, there are a few other re-adds I caught; Gangs of New York is back, I know that one for sure, and technically all of the year 2002 that's in the new book are re-adds, including City of God and Hable con Ella.<br /><br />Also, some of the new entries have additional foreign titles listed that I didn't include; I can add those if you'd like. I'll probably go through my list and add the new titles in some point tonight or tomorrow.Adolytsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12266038228108057617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-51646107078344917152013-09-11T18:53:07.919-04:002013-09-11T18:53:07.919-04:00That's 49 adds, counting the multiple Toy Stor...That's 49 adds, counting the multiple Toy Story movies, so that means you've got a couple more than me from the Table of Contents. The Man with the Golden Arm is one I didn't have. I also didn't pick up on the new Aileen Wuornos movie. You didn't mention the re-additions of Russian Ark and Boogie Nights, which would put it to 51, so it looks like there are a couple more removals I didn't get from the Table of Contents, either.<br /><br />I've seen both you and Steve list one movie as Peter "Ibbertson". If that's the way it is in the book they've created a new typo because the title is Peter "Ibbetson".Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-74609111713177787892013-09-11T18:36:26.782-04:002013-09-11T18:36:26.782-04:00Stopped by Barnes & Noble on the way home, and...Stopped by Barnes & Noble on the way home, and lo and behold, there was a copy of the new edition on the shelves, which I now hold in my hand (I was planning on picking up this as my second edition anyways, with the drastic overhaul the book reportedly underwent, and looking through it it is TOTALLY different, as I'm sure the page images on Amazon can attest to). I went through the whole thing, comparing it to my other edition (5th anniv.) and the big list on my site, and here's what I've got as the additions (I didn't look for what had been removed, as that deals with a bunch of other editions I do not have):<br /><br />The Great White Silence (1924)<br />The Eagle (1925)<br />The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926) (fun fact; 1926 was previously the only year after 1920 that didn't have a list film)<br />A Throw of Dice (1929)<br />Limite (1931)<br />The Goddess (1934)<br />Peter Ibbertson (1935)<br />The Lady Vanishes (1938)<br />Mrs. Miniver (1942)<br />Summer with Monika (1953)<br />The Man with the Golden Arm (1955)<br />Oklahoma! (1955)<br />Some Came Running (1958)<br />The Exiles (1961)<br />The Exterminating Angel (1962)<br />Mary Poppins (1964)<br />The Devils (1971)<br />The Hired Hand (1971)<br />Wake in Fright (1971)<br />F for Fake (1973)<br />The Towering Inferno (1974)<br />Sleeping Dogs (1977)<br />Christ Stopped at Eboli (1979)<br />Diva (1981)<br />The Draughtsman's Contract (1982)<br />Local Hero (1983)<br />Wall Street (1987)<br />Dead Ringers (1988)<br />RoboCop (1988)<br />Distant Voices, Still Lives (1988)<br />Field of Dreams (1989)<br />Toy Story Trilogy (1995, 1999, 2010)<br />Hana-Bi (1997)<br />Bowling for Columbine (2002)<br />Elephant (2003)<br />Aileen Wuornos: The Life and Death of a Serial Killer (2003) (Yes, this is a different film than the 1993 one on the list; it appears to be the follow-up)<br />Osama (2003)<br />The Consequences of Love (2004)<br />Moolaade (2004)<br />Cave of Forgotten Dreams (2010)<br />The Cabin in the Woods (2011)<br />Les Miserables (2012)<br />Amour (2012)<br />Argo (2012)<br />Lincoln (2012)<br />Skyfall (2012)<br />Django Unchained (2012)<br />Life of Pi (2012)<br /><br />Other changes I noticed: The Big Carnival is now labeled under its more well known title Ace in the Hole, and yes, The Fiends is the given English title for Les Diaboliques.<br /><br />So yeah, not only did Safety Last! not make it, neither did Donnie Darko, which is what I consider to be the most egregious omission. And yeah, this appears to be even more of the director-favoritism that Chip attests the list indulges in, but oh well; NEW FILMS!!<br /><br />I'll leave it to Chip to figure out what films were removed and all the other jazz he figures out for us; I just wanted to get this down for myself and for you guys.Adolytsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12266038228108057617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-50458864769378884952013-09-11T17:57:20.249-04:002013-09-11T17:57:20.249-04:00Agreed. Still no 28 Days Later, still no Inherit t...Agreed. Still no 28 Days Later, still no Inherit the Wind or The Caine Mutiny, still nothing from Aardman Entertainment (Wallace and Gromit), still no Ray Harryhausen...SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-33588271811257004262013-09-11T17:32:23.032-04:002013-09-11T17:32:23.032-04:00If these hold then Safety Last ! didn't make i...If these hold then Safety Last ! didn't make it onto the list - one of the ones just about everybody is amazed wasn't there in the first place. So far I'm not that impressed with the ones I've already seen that they chose to add.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4564277570960354470.post-46571933011298493892013-09-11T16:58:07.931-04:002013-09-11T16:58:07.931-04:00So sad, none of my hoped for titles made it to the...So sad, none of my hoped for titles made it to the list. Instead I am wondering what these people were thinking with some of their picks. At least there is now a Valentino film on the list. He deserves that credit, though I do not know the actual film. The Lady Vanishes would also be an interesting watch.<br />TSorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208153011927807857noreply@blogger.com